This is a VERY special episode with guest, Dr. Hannah Scott, a child and adolescent psychiatrist, who is also a part of the Mom On Purpose Membership Community. In this episode, Hannah shares the work she’s done on herself with these tools that led her to create more ease and connection in both her marriage and raising her three kiddos.

Hannah is in the thick of raising kids, balancing a career, and navigating everything that comes along with living a full life. You’ll hear exactly how she’s made her mornings easier, let go of resentment with her husband, and ultimately has created so much transformation in the last year!

Hannah inspires us all with how she’s used these tools in her life, and I have no doubt she’ll inspire you, too!

If you’re a mom, you’re in the right place. This is a space designed to help you overcome challenges and live your best life. I’d love for you to join me inside the Mom On Purpose Membership where we take this work to the next level.

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Welcome to Mom On Purpose, where it’s all about helping moms overcome challenges and live their best lives. My hope is by being here, you are more inspired to become the mom you are made to be. I’m Natalie, your host, a wife, boy, mom, dog, mama, Chicagoan, and former lawyer turned professionally certified coach. If you’re here to grow, I can help. Let’s go.

Hello, my beautiful friend. Welcome to the podcast. Today I have a very special episode for you. I am interviewing Dr. Hannah Scott. She is diving deep into how she is applying these tools to her life and the changes that have made the biggest impact in motherhood and marriage and even weight loss. So without further ado, let’s dive in.

Hi Hannah. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. So I just want to start off with a little bit more about you. Can you tell us a little bit more about yourself? Yeah, sure. I am a child and adolescent psychiatrist. I’ve been married for almost 11 years in June. My husband is a surgeon. I work part-time. He works full-time and we have three daughters. We have twin girls who are both seven. And then we have, a five-year-old as well.

I love that. So you are in the thick of raising kids and working and, and navigating motherhood and life and balancing it all with full careers. Yes. That’s awesome. So you are part of the Mom On Purpose membership community, but I’m curious, like before you joined the membership, were you a podcast listener? Kind of, how did you kind of learn about this work that we specifically do here?

Yeah, I’m an avid podcast listener. I love to like,listen and learn and especially when I go on my walks, which I walk about, uh, an hour a day. And so a few years ago after I’d finished having my,, three kids, I had probably put on about 30 pounds of weight and I was really ready to get it off. I was done, finally done breastfeeding and I was like, okay, now I can work on getting it all. And my friend told me about Katrina Ubell and I listened to her podcast and proceeded to lose a bunch of weight and just never, I never needed to do her program just ’cause listening to her podcast was so effective. And so like, do you join a podcast program when you’ve already lost weight? Like, so it just didn’t make sense for me. But I, and then you were on her podcast and it was exactly what I was looking for, like a monthly membership, something I could continue to like learn and grow and work on the things that I wanted to work on. So,, and I think you did that one in like April or May

Yeah. Of last year. Oh my gosh, that’s right. I was on that podcast. Yeah. Yeah. And then you had your Mother’s Day special. Yeah. And I was just like, this is it. Like this is what I’m getting myself for Mother’s Day. Like Oh, I Love that. I didn’t know that. Yeah. And then I was like, if I don’t like it,it was a present that I was like, I tried and didn’t like, and now it’s been almost a year and I’m totally in.

Oh my gosh. I absolutely love that. So, so you’re listening to Katrina Ubell. I love her and she has a lot of similar concepts, but for those who don’t know, she has a program specifically for physicians on how to lose weight. And even though she, on the podcast, I think talks about like a variety of topics, even though it’s mostly for weight loss, there is kind of, kind of that overlap. And we were trained at the same school and she was actually my teacher, part of my teachers in, in coach training. And so, I have a great relationship with her and, and she’s awesome. And so you started listening to the podcast, took advantage of the Mother’s Day deal, gave yourself a gift, which I love. I’m a huge fan of, just get yourself that gift and make it one that you think you’re going to really like, love and get value from.

And like you said, in this case, if, if not, you just, you know, nothing’s lost. It’s just you tried that didn’t work. But for you, you’ve been a member for, gosh, a year now, which is crazy at the time this will be airing. So just tell us like a little bit about before you joined, kind of, it sounds like you didn’t have a ton of hesitations, but had you ever done a coaching program like this? Were you, I know you were familiar with Katrina’s tools, but had you been, you know, kind of analyzing your thoughts before and kind of doing this work, just kind of where were you before, the membership in terms of doing your own personal development work?

It’s, it’s interesting. I, well, what I really liked about it was like wanting to bounce some ideas off of, someone. And Katrina actually opened up like a free coaching session during Covid to help, uh, physicians, which was really kind of, her and I attended one of the sessions and, it was just so helpful, like she said, such helpful things. But again, like her program just really didn’t fit what I needed. ’cause like weight wasn’t, isn’t a huge issue for me. It’s more of like a, just a thing that I kind of check off. And,and so I was like openly looking for a coaching program that would work for me. And then also just like, well, do I need that? Like, is there anything wrong? I’m pretty like, happy and okay. But, I just like to grow and like change and work on certain things. And so what I really liked about your program is that you have these courses each month, and for the most part, I do the courses, but sometimes I’m like, I’ll listen to it and I’m like, oh, I’m still working on this other thing. Or like, this month I’m going to focus on the jour journal prompts, or this month I’m going to do the mantras. And like I just get to pick and choose what I want.

I love that. That’s kind of what, I liked. And then another thing is like, kind of like what you talk about on the podcast is I don’t, I I’ve, I’ve like especially find myself like over consuming, like listening to five podcasts in a row and not actually implementing anything or like being overwhelmed with having to implement it all. And then I don’t do anything. And so like with yours, it was like a very specific task oriented thing that you could like change and see measurable, measurable change with. And I was like, yeah, like my house wasn’t organized and now it’s getting organized. I like even with the calendar and you had that whole thing on, uh, calendaring organizing, I was pretty resistant to it for about six months and last month I finally was like, okay, I’m going to put away my, my hard calendar. It’s in the drawer and I’m going to do, I’m fully into the Google calendar.

I love it. Finally, it took a, I converted to Your Convert. Yeah. Yeah. How’s it going? Oh, it’s going great. I’ve figured out the task and the events and then me and my husband are on the same one. Yes, we have that too. Gets A call schedule in and then I can put the kids stuff and like, it just is so easy. So yeah. I love that. It’s interesting kind of your perspective on the difference between like podcasts versus doing this work kind of tactically through a membership. Because I had the exact same experience for me, kinda like during law school and after, before I found kind of coaching and programs like this I would just consume and it, it felt good. Like I liked it and I still do like to consume, but like you said, it wasn’t like, okay, I listened to an organizing podcast and then afterwards I go organize my home.

Like, it just wasn’t like that. It was maybe you pick up a tip or a tool and, and maybe you do something from that kind of like, you got the benefit of Katrina’s podcast, which is awesome. But having a space where you can go, where it’s actually packed with actions that you can take to make a difference in your life and in a way that, like you said, it’s not, it’s not therapy, it’s not like something’s really wrong and there’s a space for that, but this is different. This is really just those personal development like growth tools that you can use in a variety of different ways that do have a real impact in the way that you live your life. So it’s like utilizing a completely different time management system, for example. And that makes life easier and better if you’re doing it in the way that is most helpful for you.

And having the sounding board, ’cause that was always the missing piece with the other podcast that I listen to with and the coaching, having to ask a coach. ’cause I probably use that like maybe once a week, once every other week when I’m kind of stuck on something or like can’t, I’ll type in to ask a coach and then get some direct feedback. And I really like that.

I love that too. Yeah. So it’s kind of like, and you can use it kind of talk about just even just generally, not specifically of course, but like what topics you might write in about, like is it just time management or like what else? Like relationships, like what do you use it kinda mostly for? Or is it just anytime there’s a challenge in your life or just kind of talk about your mindset around how to use written coaching and how it’s benefited you?

Yeah, I’ve used the Ask a Coach for several things. Uh, one of the things probably the main, heading would be like relationships. Okay. Yeah. So relationships with my husband, my extended family in-laws, even like immediate kin. And just figuring out, like one of the things that I do a lot is like, people please and try to control their feelings with what I do, which doesn’t work. Yeah. And so just really, relatable

Yeah. But like the work is like really was on me to just like, let them be mad at me or let them be mad in general us or Unhappy give people space to Dissatisfied. Right. And not feeling like I needed to change anything. And That’s, which is hard, right? Right. We’re we’re taught growing up like, oh, you made them so happy and so you, we want to do that. So, so I’m curious, like before you were using Ask a Coach in these tools, like did you have the awareness of that? Of like thoughts, create feelings and kind of separating out other people’s feelings from your own? Or are you kind of using the tools that you’re learning through the membership, like the courses or classes or whatever and the coaching? Do you understand? Yeah,

Yeah. I think,, you know, in psychiatry, which is what I’m trained in, we’re trained in a lot of these tools. I could definitely apply ’em to other people, but like to applying to myself was a totally different thing and a game changer for me. Um, and so I think that is the thing that I’ve learned. Does that kind of answer your question?

Yeah, yeah. I think so. Because especially with your background, right? I just think it’s so interesting and I was just coaching, a private client this morning on Slack and, and she just got certified as a coach. And it’s so like, when you just get certified, it’s almost like, you may have experienced this, I don’t know, as a physician where you, you almost think you’re going to be able to apply it to yourself, but I think that is the hardest space to apply it. I think everyone needs a coach, right? Because it’s, it’s almost easier to pinpoint like, oh, what’s going on with other people? And it’s, we all have blind spots and so I personally think, it’s most valuable for like, getting that perspective from someone else to kind of look inside your brain and see what’s going on.

Yeah. I, I see it as like a mirror and like, yes, I’m choosing to go in front of the mirror and like show me like where I’m thinking wrong because like the things that I don’t want to feel are resentment toward the people I love or the people I’m related to. I want to feel like love loving and connected with them. Yes. And a lot of it is just, like choosing even what we were talking about yesterday on the open call about, rest and resentment. Yes. You said something about like, since I’ve like just prioritized resting and like not trying to get everything done, I do feel a lot less resentment toward my husband who rest all the time. Like, he come and rest and like, I’m like, that’s okay. He’s worked all day. I do that now, like if I work all day, I’m like, oh, there’s laundry or there’s something on the floor. And I’m just like, I’ll do that tomorrow. And I just like kind of kick it out the way like.

Right. And Well, since everyone, for everyone listening a little background, what you had said, and correct me if I’m wrong on the call, was that you previously had been someone who wanted to or try to earn your rest. Can you talk a little bit about that and kind of that shift for you? Right. I think, my whole life leading up to probably like my career, I could pretty much work really hard for something and then achieve it. So like, work really hard in school and then work really hard to get to medical school. And then if as long as you worked really hard, you could achieve the thing and earn the thing that you wanted. And I was always like like prolonging rest. I’m like, okay, after I get into medical school, I’ll kind of relax or after I finish medical school or training. And then what it really came to a head is after I had my three children, the work is never done before. I could get the work done and then rest. But after I had three kids, it’s, it’s just never done. And I was never resting and I just felt so burnt out from work and kids and, and I felt like no one was helping me. And I don’t think anyone could have helped me enough to get everything done.

That’s right. So, And now I just, Really what’s the shift? How do you think about it now and then how does that impact your actions now? Now the shift is I prioritize rest, and just I schedule it in, I have, like just white space on my calendar. Like after we’re finished this call, I literally have nothing on the calendar. I love it. ’cause The weekend starts tomorrow and I’m going to be on the whole time with my kids, you know, Uhhuh. And so today is like my weekend. I Love that.

Yeah. And so when I started doing that, the more like I took care of myself and I would, I would just schedule myself massages or I’d be like, oh, I’ll nap this afternoon after I get done with this. Or I’ll, I’ll have, I’ll, I’ll be really busy this weekend, but Monday I’ll have off and I’ll just relax, not plan anything. And so I just started like scheduling rest, which is just downtime. Like nothing on the calendar. Rest can be anything for me. Like just yes. Even go to go into like a store that’s fun, you know?

Right. So for someone who previously had had and maybe still is like kind of achievement oriented and obviously you know how to work hard and, and get things done and set and achieve goals, was it hard for you to, implement that? Like did you get a little twitchy when you first started resting first? Or Yes. Was it an, an easy Okay, talk about that.

No, it was hard because, I knew things would have to kind of fall to the wayside. So sometimes I wouldn’t get dinner done and we would, switch to just like having, uh, frozen pizzas or something else, takeout or something. And I was worried. I was like, well, what is my husband going to think because like, he works full-time, I work part-time. Does he think that I’m should be doing those things because I’m not at work? And he was fine with it.

I love it. He’s like, sure, I’ll take this frozen pizza as good as anything else. That’s how my husband would be for sure. And actually, what happened and he, he started doing more like, I thought it was my job to do all the laundry. And then like, when I just kind of pulled back, he just started doing some of it without me asking. Like he just, I love that. Yeah. And, and then sometimes, I mean, he’s not like, perfect, we’re not perfect. And sometimes he, he would say stuff like, well, why didn’t you do the dishes? And I, and I’d just say, I was like, I’m, I was just really tired. I didn’t have, I just couldn’t do it. And I was like, but I’ll do it tomorrow. And so it wasn’t like this big issue, but I did worry that like if I didn’t take care of everything, it was a reflection that I was lazy or wasn’t doing enough. But what I found is I just kind of pulled back and I was a lot happier.

Yes. When I’m happier, everyone else in the family is Yes. Right. They really don’t care about the dishes or the laundry. Right. isn’t that amazing? Yeah. I love that. I don’t really think I knew all of that. And I think it’s such a good example because I can personally relate to it. I think a lot of people listening will be able to relate to it where we think we have to do so much one in order to earn our rest. But then two kind of like, just to think we’re good enough, like we’re doing a good enough job even at the expense of our own wellbeing, like feeling rested or happy. And, um, it’s awesome to see an example of of someone just living a full life and pulling back a little bit to take care of herself. And not only does that benefit you, but what you’re saying is it also benefits everyone in your family, which is so awesome. Right.

Yeah. I think they would rather like the laundry undone and everyone pretty happy rather than everything done. And me just like really stressed out because then I don’t want to play, I don’t want to sit down and do anything. Right. I just want to check out. That’s right. And I think, I think it’s hard, like when you’re in it, when you’re in the thick of doing all the things, it feels like it’s the only option. And just thanks for sharing that. ’cause I love seeing that, a real example that it’s not the only option right. When, but it does take getting off that kind of hamster wheel and stopping. Yeah. Right. And like, kind of like you said, a little bit of worry, like, what’s, what’s going to happen here? And not only did things not totally hit the fan and fall apart, but it actually was for the best.

And for my husband when I started like having sometimes even like whole rest days where I just didn’t do really much of anything, just like kind of took the day off. He has occasional days off and like, I know some people have like a honey do list. I make it a point never to do a honey do list. And like sometimes even like, oh, maybe I’ll cut the grass. And I’m like, if you want to, but it’s your day off. Like you don’t have to. And if you don’t want to, we can always hire someone. Like, love that. Because I was like, you need to just rest and have fun. Do you think that you have that perspective more because you’re taking care of yourself more? Or were you always like that? I was not always like that. Definitely since I, ’cause I’ve just seen the benefit of it and,Oh good. Yeah. Helpful. Yeah. I love that.

Just to, yeah, just like take, like, I encourage him. I’m like, oh, you should go like work out and hang out. And he likes to play video games and I’m like, don’t you know, don’t feel guilty if you want to play four or five hours of video games. Like, we worked really hard. We don’t have to. We’ve worked too hard to work this hard . That’s right. Dave Ramsey. That’s right. So, and, and just to kind of echo what I just asked, but before, like tell me how you would’ve been before towards him if he wanted to play that many hours of video games.

Well first I all would’ve asked him to do things when he was home and off because I would’ve felt like, well, I would do things when I’m home and off. So you need to do those things. And then I would’ve felt resentful. ’cause I don’t play video games, so I don’t really see the fun in it. I would’ve like, felt resentful that he was playing a game for several hours and not helping the family. Yes, when he wasn’t doing stuff or he wasn’t like getting dinner ready on the day he was off, or going shopping or thinking about like, all the things that needed to be done instead of, he was just like enjoying his day off because like how, like how do you have the right to enjoy the day off when like, I don’t, but like now I’m like, did you enjoy your day off? Did you, I Love it because you’re taking care of yourself it sounds like. Right. And so, right. You’re not thinking like, because I’m suffering, he needs to suffer too. It’s like, no, I’m taking care of myself. I’m resting when I want to. And, and for the record just to, to make it clear to everyonlistening, it’s not like no one’s doing the dishes and no one’s ever cutting the grass. It’s just, it sounds like a much more intentional and balanced approach to it to make sure your needs are met first. Right,

Right. That’s what it is. It’s ’cause the things get done. But yeah, like I even have, I, I go to an art class each Monday and it’s a three hour class and, he knows like if when I’m there or when I’m doing stuff, like I’m not available for other things. And it is a hobby, but it’s also like, not it, I can, I keep it pretty serious. Like, I’m going to go, I’m going to go do it. I love that for you.

Yeah. And I think the overarching kind of message is like, you’re finding new and different ways to kinda fill your cup. And by having a fuller cup, you’re able to, I mean, I, I hate to, I don’t want to say that the only purpose of it, but I do think like a secondary benefit of filling your cup is that it pours over into your family. Right. I think just take care of yourself ’cause you’re a human being. But also it’s really awesome to see the impact that it does have on your family because I do think there’s a lot of like worries that we have about that that kind of prevents us from wanting to go down that path. We think that it’ll negatively impact our family. And I think the opposite is true. And you’re an example of that.

Yeah. And you know, like during medical training, you even said something yesterday about like, you’d worked so much that you wouldn’t even go to the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember in residency, just like having the urge to go to the bathroom, like, have to go pee basically. Yeah. Yeah. And just not going probably for 12 hours straight. And eventually the urge would even go away because like, because I was like, I just have to work. There’s so much work I do not have time to go to the bathroom. And like, that’s just so crazy to me now.

Yeah. Like ignoring your body and just giving, giving, giving so much that you ignore like a basic need of just going to the bathroom. Yeah. I was, I was like that. And now like I, I make it, it’s because it happens every day. Right. I make, I make it a point as a moment like, no, this is, this is what my body needs, you know? o one’s going to die. It’s let’s put things down and mom goes to the bathroom. Yeah, Exactly. And you might have kids coming with you to the bathroom. Yeah, that’s Right. That’s right. That’s alright.

It’s, it’s the same thing with eating. For me. It’s like on the call yesterday, I was talking to a another client that was on, with little ones and we were talking. I was, I was just saying that, like to sometimes I think of myself as another child to make sure I prioritize myself as much as I do my kids. Like, it’s so easy to think, oh, I want to make sure they have a great lunch, I can eat later. It’s like, no, if I was a third child, I would never say that. Like, oh, you can eat later. I would say, no, we have to make sure you’re fed nutritious foods too. And so, one, it’s interesting that it takes that to, to, to prioritize yourself. But two, it is kind of effective when you think of yourself as a third child in that way.

At least to get started, taking better care of yourself. And I think that’s kind of the underlying theme is that we’ve been talking about here. Is there anything else with respect to kinda tools or big changes like you’ve been in for a year? So you’ve seen almost a year, so you’ve seen kinda a lot of the different kind of classes and courses and tools that have been in the membership. I know relationships you’ve been using for Ask a Coach and fo, kind of the work you’ve done around like, rest and overwhelm and, and all of that in your family. Is there anything else that you’ve found to be particularly helpful for you that’s made an impact on your life?

Yeah, I actually, did the weight loss, uh, your weight loss thing. And I, it was so great because it was actually like three courses in a row. Like one was like setting a goal, there was another one. And like, I just used it for weight loss for each one. And then the one was actual weight loss. But, so I had, we had just gone on a trip and afterward I was like, okay, my goal is going to be weight loss. So that was the goal. And I made a number. I wanted to lose 15 pounds and I wasn’t, attached to like when it would happen or how, and then when you talked about, the how to, how to lose weight, I just did it. And I, I just got so much help from it.

And even with my thinking, I didn’t even realize, like one of the things on Ask a Coach was, I was like basically, equating, like if I ate anything at night, I was definitely going to gain weight. And I’m talking about anything if it was like a morsel of food that is just like the entryway for me to just gain all the weight back. And then, like you said about like, oh no, like I might eat or like I eat ice cream with my kid. Yeah. And I was like, this is crazy. So I mean, I lost weight during the holidays, like over Christmas during the new year, and then the, the week that I reached my weight loss, we live in Louisiana, was Mardi Gras. And I Oh My gosh, Every day, the, the day that I lost and I sent you a snapshot of it, I had king cake every day and I just could not believe it. I was like, so I just thought I was, I just realized like, this is so maintainable. Yes. If I could literally anything. It’s not like I went on some crazy healthy, I mean, I had, I had what we just normally had, which was one of the big things. I can’t make multiple meals for all the people in, we need to make one meal that’s and have to be able to eat.

It’s, yeah. And so that was huge. So, probably lost 15 pounds over four months. That’s amazing. Yeah. So like really, really slow. Not really slow. Yeah. But it’s kinda like the four months is going to go by anyways. Right. It’s, it’s, it’s like so sexy if you’re like, I lost 15 pounds in 30 days. But it’s like, yeah, what goes up must comes down. Right. And it’s like it’s, you want something that’s sustainable. You want something that, like you said, you’re eating what you’ve always ate. It’s just a little bit different. It’s a little bit more like, I would describe it as just more intentional how much and the way that you’re eating and the way your body responds to it, more awareness of it. So it’s like, to me, if you want to lose weight, it’s like the next four months go by anyway. If you want to lose 15 pounds, let’s take four months or even eight months if it takes eight months. But if you lose it and keep it off, isn’t that worth it?

]Yeah. And it was really, yeah, it just became very intentional and very, um, cognizant of what I was eating and just like writing my food down and then seeing, oh, that didn’t work or that did work and making like little changes and, yeah. I mean we even would go to, like sporting events and have like, their food is really great. And that was even on, on like my plan. I was like, oh, I’m planning for this. Or like, I even remember one time, I like planned my alcohol out because it was like my birthday and then I had like this piece of cake and the cake was just not good. So, I mean, I just had like one bite and I was like, this is not even worth it. I’m not eating this cake. I love it. Yeah. So so amazing.

Yeah. So it was, that was good. And then, with my kids, I just, I think that has been, I can’t like pinpoint like one exact thing, but the nighttime and the bed nighttime and morning time. So like for morning time I just realized I made big changes with what I did. I was like, I need to wake up an hour before they do. I need to be fully dressed fully on. Sometimes I’ll even journal in the morning, before I like start getting them up because I have like some crank stirs and they’re like not happy to get up. And, and then I was like, oh, they just need more help. Like, maybe I was expecting my seven year olds to put their uniforms on their self, but they actually needed help.

Yes. And then just being like , when I was totally dressed and ready, I was just sitting there on the bench with them and I was like, oh, I’ll help you. Let’s, let’s do it together. Yeah. So you show up differently and it changes the entire experience. Right. And, and yeah, so just like the morning routine, they’re cranky sometimes, but I’m just open to that and just yes, ready for it. And like, giving lots of hugs and back rubs and just being like, it’s okay. And I also like, if we’re late, it’s not that big of a deal, I just check them in. Like,

So I love all of this. Tell me though, how you were before, like you, I assume you didn’t get up an hour earlier and, and you expected them to kind of do most of it and like just Yeah. Walk us through kind of how it was before and Before. I’d probably get about 15 minutes before them, like kind of rushed to try to get ready, but then I needed to get them up. I would expect them to get their own clothes on and not fight. Even though there’s, there’s three kids and they’re little and they’re kind of cranky in the morning. And then I would go into serve breakfast and then kind of just be in a rush. Like, we have to get there, we have to get to work. I have to. And the, I just was like, was being late a big deal as well? Yeah. Being late because like, I’m not a late person. I’m usually like early And then I was like, well, what is the big deal if we’re late? Like, what if they’re just tardy? The worst thing is, is like we just walk ’em in and I check ’em in. It’s, it’s not a big deal. And that really doesn’t even happen that much,or rarely.

Right. But I think what you’re saying is kind of that mindset shift of not wanting to happen, not wanting it to happen so much added this level of like stress and resistance to it. Even if it happens still as infrequently as before, without putting that extra layer of stress and pressure on it, it makes the mornings just a lot more enjoyable and easier. Would that be right? Yeah,

That’s basically it. ’cause I’m not like yelling at them to be like, let’s go get out the door. Like brush your teeth. Just, it’s, it’s more like, it’s like, what else do you have to do this morning? And they’re like, oh, I have to brush my teeth. And I’m like, . Okay. And then I’m like, whenever you’re done brushing your teeth, come meet us in the car. And like, I’m not in a hurry. Like, ’cause I have one little straggler, she’s always like the last to brush your teeth and then come out. And yeah. I really just wanted to be peaceful in the morning. I wanted them to be peaceful before they go off on their day. And so, and even at night I was like, this is when we go to bed. It’s seven 30, you need to be asleep by eight. And one of my kid takes naps at school still and she really doesn’t need the nap. So sometimes she doesn’t go to sleep till nine. And like, I used to fight that and now I’m just like, oh, well maybe like I’ll sit in the room with him. And I was like, maybe she’ll be the one who like takes longer or we’ll read a book together. Or it takes her a little while longer to calm down. ’cause she’s, she’s rested. Yeah. She’s pretty well rested. She could go to sleep at about nine 30. Yeah.

And before where you trying to kind of control that and, and really push her to go to bed by eight. Yeah. Really control it. Be like, don’t get outta your bed. Stay there. And that’s hard for a 5-year-old who is not tired. Yeah. She was just laying there bored and waking up her sisters and that caused problems. And so now I just like sit in there and we will quietly, read a book or if she can’t fall asleep, she’ll come downstairs for a little while and then go to sleep. And it’s just less I’m, I just kind of roll with it. I’m like, oh, you’re just not tired yet. Yeah.

It sounds like there’s just more ease Yeah. In all of it a little bit. I love that. This is like inspiring to hear. I’ve obviously, I’ve, I’ve known you for a year, I’ve been coaching you. It’s been really fun. But even I’m learning all of these details, which is really fun to hear. Yeah. Is there anything else, that you just would like to share kind of about your experience, about the tools, about anything?

Yeah. I, well first about the membership, I see it as like a gym membership. I don’t go to the gym, I don’t have, but like, when people go, they never say like, oh, I hated paying that gym membership. Like, it wasn’t worth it even though I used it all the time. That’s how I think about this program. I use it every day and it’s so worth it. I just see it’s like my brain membership. I love that. Yeah. And do you ever, I know you, you are using it frequently, right? ’cause you enjoy it and get the benefits of it. But I’m curious, like when I, I don’t personally have a gym membership either, but I have in the past and I understand we all understand how gym memberships work. It’s not like if I miss a week, I don’t go and think like, oh my gosh, I missed all of these classes, like from last week. How am I going to catch up? It’s just no. Like what’s, what’s on the schedule for this upcoming week? And I think for whatever reason it’s, we don’t have that same perspective with kind of an online program like this, a coaching program. So can you talk a little bit about that? Was that a shift for you or you, have you always been kind of present and future focused with like a membership like this?

Yeah, like I, I do, if I’m going to, like buy into something, I want to use it, but I do take breaks from it. Like I say, sometimes the courses, I’ll listen to and I’ll be like, oh, this is like something I’m familiar with or not really something I need to work on. So I’ll just like kind of pivot and do something else on the, or like sometimes you update stuff on the Yeah. So I’ll do that instead. Or,, like we’re onwhen we’re on vacation or if we’re really busy. Yeah, definitely pull back and then. And tell me your thought pro, like when you come back in, you’re not thinking because, because I think a lot of us think, oh my gosh, I’m so behind. I miss so much. So what are your thoughts when you jump back in after like a vacation?

When I jumped back in yeah, I don’t think that like, I, I used to think that I needed to use every portion of it. But like I get so much value out of it with what I choose. It’s easier for me to like pick and choose. Yes. I’ll give you an example. Like the mantras are helpful. They are. I, I know people use them, but I put ’em down and then I never read ’em. Yeah. So it was nice when I like read ’em and wrote ’em down the first time. But, so mantras is not something I really use. Yeah. But the journal prompts I like come back and forth to all the time.

I love that. Sometimes I’ll use them in the, sometimes I won’t. And then sometimes I don’t have anything going on, but I’ll just go to ask a coach and see what other people have and I’m like, yes. Like, oh, that’s so interesting. That’s really helpful.

Yeah. Because you’re kind of getting a peek at like someone else’s challenge. Not from like a, ooh, this is juicy perspective, but like, oh, let’s see what’s happening with their brain. And I think sometimes you can almost apply things that are not directly related to you in a way that is sometimes easier because you’re not so emotionally invested in it. Right., and that can be helpful, but I love what you said about like, not using the mantras all the time, but maybe using the journal prompts because it’s kind of how I think of a gym. Like, you’re not going to see me swimming in the gym. Right. And I’m not like mad they have a pool there. It’s just I’m probably going to be in the, in the classes or in the cardio room. And I even like with Ask a Coach, I was like, oh, I think I’m going to do this. Like, once, like, especially when I first started, I’m going to do this once a day and then I was like, I really don’t need to use it once a day. Even once a week is kind of a lot. I just need to use it when I need to use it. It’s, it’s just, uh, that works out better. ’cause a lot, especially once you keep doing it, you can kind of self-coach. Yes. That’s the other thing in everything.

Right. And it well, and you learn that, right? Like I think over the course of a year it kind of like, maybe in the beginning you’re using it a little more. And then also if you have another challenge that comes up when your brain’s all kind of messy about it, that might be another time when you want to kind of use it. Like the frequency changes Right. Based on kind of what’s going on in your life and, and how much you just feel like you need it. Yeah. And I just like that it’s always there. Yeah. Like I take a break and I’m gone for a week or two and then I just come back and it’s just there and Yeah. Yeah. It’s available. I love that. It has been so fun to coach you and to be with you today and to hear all about the changes that you’ve made and the progress and growth. And like you said it, you came in just wanting some tools and personal development. Not like something was like drastically wrong. But I think you’re just such an example to everyone about how to use these tools and really make a difference in your life. And as we’ve heard, it also impacts your family’s life as well.

Yeah. It really does. Even my daughter, my 7-year-old daughter was asking me last night or two nights ago about, she was like, so mom, do, we control our emotions or do our emotions control us? And I was like, well, funny thing that you ask. Yeah. It’s funny, you ask, let’s come chat about emotions. Yeah. Love it. And uh, I love it. They also ask a lot of questions right before they go to bed, but I was like, yeah, let’s talk about that. And so it was just really, because she’s also the one that always tells me, well that’s not fair. And I’m so unlucky. and Oh, interesting. Yeah. And she, and so we talk about, a lot of, about fairness and how unlucky she is and Oh. And then validating feelings. I’m so good with my kids about validating and I just like sit there and hold them and I’m just so much more present with them. I’ll even, like, if I’m cooking something and they’re having a meltdown, I’ll just like turn off the spaghetti or whatever and I’m like, tell me how you’re feeling. Yeah. Lemme talk for a minute. And how would you have been before? ’cause I can relate to this as well.

Oh. Just kind of like, stop crying. Like, we don’t have time for that right now. I’ll deal with it, it after or go in the playroom or, and now I’m just like, I’ll, I’ll sit there and, yeah. Just validate ’em and, and not try to fix anything and just, you know, really understand like, whatever just happened was like a very big deal for them. Right.

It’s like their perspective, seeing their perspective and not trying to change it and just like hold, we call it coaching, holding space for them. You’re just like allowing them to feel how they want to feel and you’re like, it’s okay that you Feel this way. Like this morning we had my 5-year-old was really upset that she wasn’t allowed to play like with the Pokemon cards that her sister had put out. And I was, you know, ’cause the older sister has like, better Pokemon cards and I was like, I know this is really hard. And like really just being so compassionate. Be like, I know she has the best ones. Like they are like, they’re legendary.

Yeah. Like you’re believing her. Right. You’re not like, oh, it’s fine. They’re not even, it doesn’t matter. Right. That would be invalidating, but you’re really believing her because it’s her experience. Yeah. I mean, she was bawling, crying about these Pokemon cards and I was like, understand, like, this is really hard. Yeah. And I was like, we’re going to, we’re going to work on this. And she got over it. I mean, she’s five so it was, it was like a two minute ball fest. Yeah. Where she just was like crocodile tears and then she was off to the next thing. That’s right. And like, we didn’t fix anything. We didn’t solve anything. The Pokemon cards are still the older ones and uh, yeah. And I think it’s been really great. I’m just really there for her.

That is right. You’re there for them in your Like, I, I always think of the word respect, right? It’s a different level of respecting your kids, but I don’t think before doing this work, you’re thinking that you’re disrespecting them. But it just, to me, when I’m having an experience like that with my child, I just feel like I’m respecting them so much. And it, it’s a better experience for me. And I’m sure for you then kind of rushing it, trying to fix it, trying to get them to be over it. That doesn’t feel good for anyone, I don’t think.

Yeah. Yeah. Like one of the things I’ve always been like wanting to, I’m not a very patient person, I just want to get things done. And so this has been like always think, okay, this is, for me, this is a good chance for me to practice patience. And I have to say that in my head I’m like, all right, now I’m going to practice patience because like, like the thing that you say, I thought I was going to get dinner ready, but like, I’m going to turn off the stove and we’re going to like cry about the Pokemon car. That’s Right. That’s what I do. I’m like, yeah. I’m like, I thought I was going to be cooking dinner, but instead I put on my tantrum hat and we’re going to do tantrum. Like, I was just wrong. I’m not cooking dinner right no Right. And it, I think if you have that mindset ahead of time, it just makes the whole experience better because you just fully accept that it’s happening. And you know, the, the opposite of that is, is not that it doesn’t happen, it’s still happening. You’re just rejecting it and you’re mad that it’s happening. So then we have it happening and then you’re mad about it and it just makes it worse. Instead it’s just happening and we’re going to just fully accept it and no one’s going to starve. We’re going to make dinner eventually and it’ll all work out. Right.

Yeah. There’s not, there’s not a huge urgency anymore of getting things done. Probably also ’cause I’m, I’ve rested and I’ve also had some time yourself. Yes, that’s right. Well circle it all comes back to taking better care of yourself and then you can kind of apply these different tools like the weight loss, the parenting and, and everything in between. Thank you so much for being here, for sharing your experience. I have no doubt it is inspiring thousands of women listening. So thank you so much, Hannah.

Oh, you’re welcome. Thanks Natalie for having me on. I was going to say one other thing. Yeah. Being on the podcast was on my bucket list. So this is, I love it. So excited you did it. And as you know, as a listener, I really don’t have guests on, so, that makes it extra special. So thanks so much for being here. Thank you for being here and listening Now head on over to to learn more about the Mom on Purpose membership, where we take all of this work to the next level.

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